Never change Cat, never changeI won't get into a quarrel with you on this because we are so far apart that the gap is irreconcilable
Never change Cat, never changeI won't get into a quarrel with you on this because we are so far apart that the gap is irreconcilable
They'll be colder stood on the pitch half assed running around than on the sideline in a coat or jacket.The one thing that stands out about all this for me is this. We often play in the worst weather months of the year with the temperature plummeting below zero and rain or hail and such. I really don't think we should be sending a child off to stand around for 10 minutes in those situations. Yellow is a caution and a Red is a removal from the pitch permanental. Anything else is meddling where none is needed,in my opinion.
I wish I could conduct myself in this mannerI won't get into a quarrel with you on this because we are so far apart that the gap is irreconcilable
Just Google 'define c0cksure' replacing the 0 with an o, then stand in front of the mirror and practice it day in, day outI wish I could conduct myself in this manner
So on that basis you don't allow players to be subbed off as they might get cold?Yep,seriously. I assume you've been on a child welfare course?
i'd argue there's a thread to be had in thisThis is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on here
I'd rather send them home by giving them a red than this unnecessary sin bin guff. A sin bin could just as well be replaced with a substitution given there is mostly roll on roll off in most youth football. My sin bin comment was because I thought it meant some form of isolation area but people are saying its just like an enforced substitution,which is much better. You could still show a yellow but the next card would be a red and not another 'cop out' yellow.So on that basis you don't allow players to be subbed off as they might get cold?
This is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on here, and that is saying something.
I'd rather send them home by giving them a red than this unnecessary sin bin guff.
The point of a sin bin is that it is a punishment to the player and their team. If you allow that player to be substituted, the team or player are never going to learn. To add to that, say the team sub the player and then bring him/her back on after 30 seconds; what do you do then?I'd rather send them home by giving them a red than this unnecessary sin bin guff. A sin bin could just as well be replaced with a substitution given there is mostly roll on roll off in most youth football. My sin bin comment was because I thought it meant some form of isolation area but people are saying its just like an enforced substitution,which is much better. You could still show a yellow but the next card would be a red and not another 'cop out' yellow.
It may well be for the reasons you describe above but from my own experience, I haven't had to use it nearly as much as previously simply because I've found the verbal threat (from myself) of 10 mins in the bin more often than not serves as the deterrent.
I may be wrong, but I remembered you saying you referee in North West England?Fortunately my league doesnt use sin bins
Assuming you are in England sin bins are mandatory for most levels and age groups.Fortunately my league doesnt use sin bins and having spoken to two trainers before my under 15s match they are glad of it too. It only needs some game management starting with a quick word,then a yellow if it continues and another yellow equalling red if it goes beyond that. In mini football I'd rather just get the coach to substitute the player. After mini football just use the normal LOTG of cautions and sendings off. Sin bins are just unnecessary meddling. As a referee you are going to get some form of dissent in most games so you need to develop a thick skin and use cards,but only the traditional two.
Assuming you are in England sin bins are mandatory for most levels and age groups.
Trust me, he's even worse in person ...I wish I could conduct myself in this manner
Is that a jolly jape about the wedding band debate? Hilarious. Sin bins are not mandatory in my local league,thankfully. And my refereeing is simply a hobby to stay involved in grassroots and get a touch of extra fitness in. I really dont take it too seriously beyond the match time. I'm glad you all enjoy it though. Remember not to be condescending to others though as there are youngsters who may want advice and being patronising is not helpful with that. Happy reffing.Law 5 is optional is his league too apparently so who knows what rules are followed?
Yes, they are.. Sin bins are not mandatory in my local
I can't vouch for that (having never met him) but can well believe it. I'm getting a sort of Geordie Victor Meldrew-type image leaping in there ...Trust me, he's even worse in person ...