To be honest, setting the standard that the use of the word "c*nt" may well earn the offending player a red card is one that I am pretty comfortable with......and I'm not sure that it's one that referees need to be afraid of?
Think this is all getting along in quite a civil manner really.......Settle down fellas. A round of horlicks all around is probably in order
But where did I say that I would not card for gratuitous use of the c word? I just don't think we should draw any lines in the sand about what we will or will not do on the fop. Leaves no room to manouvre...........
Think this is all getting along in quite a civil manner really.......
Yep!So I'm playing in your game and I manage to hoof it into my own net(a fairly odds on occurrence) and I vocally and quite loudly say 'you stupid effing cnut'.
You'd bin me?
So I'm playing in your game and I manage to hoof it into my own net(a fairly odds on occurrence) and I vocally and quite loudly say 'you stupid effing cnut'.
You'd bin me?
It was Carbolic Soap in them days Minty!!! Dads smacks hurt but my mothers slipper really hurt!!!!!Pi55ing myself with laughter here db. Last person to threaten that was my mum about 46 years ago.
Sounds like you attitude may be from her era, you may have a lot in common with her!
You are a nomad in the Sahara desert.... wandering off the point.... we are not talking about pub,club,work place,tv, at home,disco , etc. etc. we are talking about on the field of play where (sorry padfoot) foul and abusive language is not permitted, ok a player might shout f*** it,bollo***, on a near miss with his shot on goal i have no problem with that, you for the sake of argument are taking it away from football to justify the decision to allow the word c*** on the pitch. Let's keep to the context of swearing on the football pitch which is what the original discussion was about.... No i don't expect every referee to think the way i do, everybody has their different tolerant level for swearing in the right " context " but there should be a line drawn somewhere but i think you have lost your pencil and ruler.All has to be taken in context. Like it or not language that would be classed as foul and abusive 20 years ago is now part of every day vocabulary. I work in a financial services organisation and it is even the case there, 20 years ago that would be totally unheard of. Likewise some of the language you hear on TV now, before and after the watershed, would have seen the channel closed down 20 years ago.
If as a referee you want to go on a crusade to send off anyone who swears then that is fine, fill your boots. But you cannot expect other referees to follow you, almost lemming like, leaping into the abyss.
At only 29 years old... I always got threatened with this as a kidPi55ing myself with laughter here db. Last person to threaten that was my mum about 46 years ago.
Sounds like you attitude may be from her era, you may have a lot in common with her!
This is an interesting debate with many points of view. i have myself sent someone off in a similar scenario. wont lie i was being assessed and the assessor was in earshot so in my view i thought thats marks dropped if i dont deal. his advice was that whilst supporting the red card was that maybe a yellow would have worked due to no reaction, slightly less foul language used earlier in the game.
Sometimes you have to judge the reaction of players around. on the flip side you have to balance your match control..by not sending off it then becomes acceptable to call your opponent a fat c u next tuesday. or rather it becomes a cautionable offence. so the question i would pose would be at what point does it become offinabus? if its at the referee?
Another angle.. what would you have done had the player responded with VC? red for both? 1 yellow one red?
Ps im not saying what you did was wrong or right.. only you know that on reflection